Podcast Episodes

July 9, 2021

In this bonus episode, Wendy speaks with evolutionary biologist David Sloan Wilson. This episode is being released in conjunction with Mind & Life’s new film, Evolution of the Heart — a short documentary covering conversations between the Dalai Lama, David Sloan Wilson, and social scientist Pumla Gobodo-Madikizela from a 2019 Mind & Life event in Dharamsala, India. The theme of that gathering was Compassion, Interconnection, and Transformation. David’s work extends beyond genetics to include personal and cultural evolution, and sheds light on how we can move forward as a global community. In this conversation, they discuss many topics, including:

• the role of competition, cooperation, and prosocial behavior in human evolution;
• how evolutionary pressure operates at both individual and group levels (multilevel selection);
• the possibility of conscious evolution;
• what it means to be part of a group;
• expanding the notion of the self;
• becoming “bilingual” in scientific and spiritual perspectives;
• the need to create a system of ethics for the whole world;
• and core design principles for creating more egalitarian and compassionate communities. 

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May 21, 2021

In this episode, Wendy speaks with environmentalist Dekila Chungyalpa about her views of nature, the climate crisis, and her unique collaborations with faith leaders. Their conversation covers many topics, including:

• growing up in the Himalayas and being interconnected with nature;
• the dominance of dualistic thinking in the West, and the dangerous separations it creates;
• embracing a framework of interdependence;
• the role of indigenous wisdom in conservation;
• her own experience dealing with eco-anxiety;
• working with faith leaders to move the needle on environmental issues;
• weaving together Buddhist values and activism;
• bridging science and religion;
• and the need for compassion and community in facing the climate crisis.

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May 7, 2021

In this episode, Wendy speaks with clinical researcher Peter Wayne about his work on mind-body and movement-based interventions like tai chi. Their conversation covers many topics, including:

• how a background in ecology informs his research;
• embracing multiple causes of any outcome;
• how to do non-reductionist science;
• removing the hyphen from the mind-body system;
• harnessing the wisdom of the body through contemplative practice;
• the value of first-person narrative in research;
• safety and trauma in the body;
• the relationship between physical and emotional patterns;
• how the concept of the subtle body relates to Western views;
• the role of integrative medicine in dealing with climate change;
• and bringing together multiple perspectives to investigate the mind & healing.

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April 22, 2021

In this episode, Wendy speaks with Tibetan Buddhist teacher Mingyur Rinpoche about how contemplative practice can lead us to awareness, compassion, and wisdom. Their conversation covers many topics, including:

• his involvement in early contemplative research;
• translating concepts between Buddhism and science;
• what Buddhists mean by “emptiness”;
• non-conceptual meditation, open presence and foundational awareness;
• the three kinds of self, and which one is like shaving foam;
• the problem of othering;
• making friends with panic and difficult emotions;
• the experience of a “wandering” retreat;
• and building trust through contemplative practice.

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April 9, 2021

In this episode, Wendy speaks with social psychologist Buju Dasgupta about her work on implicit bias, and the role of social context in shaping the mind. Their conversation covers many topics, including:

• her path to merging science and social justice;
• the crucial role of social context in implicit bias;
• the malleability of implicit bias & the “wallpaper” of the mind;
• how scientists measure unconscious processes (like implicit bias);
• changing bias against women and underrepresented groups in STEM education;
• links from this work into contemplative science;
• increasing cross-disciplinary collaboration to advance research around equity;
• the subtle ways we can change implicit bias by changing the wallpaper of our lives;
• and turning research into social impact.

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