Podcast Episodes

Lisa Feldman Barrett – Your Emotions Aren’t What You Think

mlipodcast · January 15, 2021 ·

January 15, 2021

We launch our second season featuring a conversation with psychologist, neuroscientist, and emotion researcher Lisa Feldman Barrett. She and Wendy discuss a broad range of topics about the mind, including:

her unexpected path into studying emotions;
how our brains construct and predict our reality;
the brain’s essential role in regulating the body;
emotions as interpretations of our bodily state;
how our past shapes and filters our present experience;
the difference between affective feelings (mood) and emotions;
our capacity to influence our own emotions;
deconstructing our experience through mindfulness;
how to improve our emotional lives;
connections with Buddhist theories of mind;
implications for our understanding of the self;
how we regulate not only our own, but others’ nervous systems;
and how stress and modernity might lead to clinging to entrenched views.

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Jack Kornfield – Wisdom for our Times

mlipodcast · December 9, 2020 ·

December 10, 2020

As 2020 draws to a close, Wendy speaks with Buddhist teacher, author, and psychologist Jack Kornfield in a special episode. Their conversation covers a wide range of topics, including:

how he’s interpreting our current moment, and what’s needed most;
his path into Buddhism & psychology, reflecting on family and coming of age in the 1960s;
the value of going on a meditation retreat;
links between Buddhism and psychology in terms of healing and self;
the problem of spiritual bypassing;
how to work with difficulties through allowing and gratitude;
the role of Buddhist ideas in activism and social justice work;
and the most important thing researchers can measure as an outcome of meditation practice.

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Adam Hanley – Taking Your Mind Off Autopilot

mlipodcast · October 23, 2020 ·

October 23, 2020

In this bonus episode, Wendy speaks with psychologist and contemplative researcher Adam Hanley. Adam studies mindfulness-based interventions for addiction and pain, seeking to understand how they work, and how they can best be applied in these populations. In this conversation they discuss:

how he became a contemplative scientist;
automaticity, habits, and addiction;
his research showing how mindfulness may help us de-automatize our thought processes, and stay more in the present;
self-transcendence and how he’s beginning to study it;
and the importance of understanding the nature of self, and moving beyond egocentric views, as we seek to build a healthier society.

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Andreas Roepstorff – Interacting Minds

mlipodcast · September 2, 2020 ·

September 2, 2020

In this episode, Wendy speaks with anthropologist and neuroscientist Andreas Roepstorff. Andreas has been a pioneer in integrating these two approaches, examining how social context impacts the mind and brain. Their conversation covers a range of topics, including:

navigating academic training in two disciplines, and how he bridges the different perspectives of neuroscience and anthropology;
how being a research subject changed his view of subjective experience;
intersubjectivity, and his work to bring together first- and third-person perspectives;
research on fire-walking;
meditation and microphenomenology;
studying playfulness;
predictive models of mind;
the power of mindfulness to help with rumination;
and the importance of exploring how two minds can process and respond differently to the same experience.

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Evan Thompson – Expanding Our View of the Mind

mlipodcast · August 19, 2020 ·

August 19, 2020

In this episode, Wendy speaks with philosopher of mind Evan Thompson about embodied cognition and contemplative science. This is one of our longer shows, and is full of rich content. Evan is one of the earliest contributors to advancing the dialogue between Buddhism and Western science through his work with Mind & Life co-founder Francisco Varela, and he’s spent decades exploring how the human mind extends beyond the brain, throughout the body and into the world. In this conversation, they discuss:

his unique upbringing and educational path;
his work with Francisco Varela and the beginnings of the conversation between Buddhism and cognitive science;
why philosophy matters;
the project of neurophenomenology and the integration of first- and third-person methods;
the problem of neurocentrism;
4E cognition (that mind is embodied, embedded, extended, and enacted);
the “self” as construction vs. illusion;
how predictive models of mind line up with the enactive view;
whether or not meditation is a special avenue to reveal the nature of the mind;
the need for more thought systems and religions at the table in contemplative science;
and why it’s critical today to understand the human mind in nuanced ways.

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